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madfranks 02-12-2009 10:04 AM

Exotic Shotgun Ammo
 
This stuff is freaking sweet - check it out!

12 Gauge Door Breaching Cartridge - Rated #1 Round for SWAT Team Tactical Entry
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/Doo...hmoreinfo.html

12 Gauge Rubber Rocket Projectile with OC Pepper
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/G12038.html

12 GA. Confetti Ammo
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/G12-033MoreInfo.html

12 GA. Flechette Shot Shells
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/flechettemoreinfo.html

12 GA. "Armor Piercing"
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/12gaarmorpcing.html

12 GA. "Double Slug"
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/dou...gmoreinfo.html

12 GA. "Exploder"
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/explodermoreinfo.html

12 GA. "Macho Gaucho"
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/mac...omoreinfo.html

12 GA. "Pepper Blast"
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/G12031_MoreInfo.html

12 Gauge "Rhodesian Jungle"
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/rho...emoreinfo.html

12GA Flash Thunder Grenade Ammo
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/fla...rmoreinfo.html

12 Gauge Tracer Slug
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/product1352.html

12 GA. "Piranha"
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/pirahnamoreinfo.html

12 GA. Terminator-X
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/trminatormoreinfo.html

And of course, 12 GA. Flame Thower
http://www.firequest.com/catalog/fla...rmoreinfo.html

Canadian-guerilla 02-12-2009 10:14 AM

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was looking for flechettes, but i guess the " Piranha " is close enough


i just hope this company has done enough testing to weed out the " anomolies "

St. Germain 02-12-2009 10:23 AM

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Can this stuff damage the shotgun?

ST

Canadian-guerilla 02-12-2009 10:26 AM

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i was thinking of cleaning after the " Tracer " slugs

Twisted Avatar 02-12-2009 10:27 AM

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I am not big fan of slugs(changing chokes ) or stuff that stuns (tear gas, Rubber balls etc)

My philosophy is simple If I pull that trigger......... I WANT YOU GONE, PERIOD END OF STORY.

The only one I would consider is the Flame thrower ammo for two reasons.

First: If shoot that shyt I can guarantee ........The entire block is getting the @#$%^&* outta of my way. Fire inginites a primal fear in us, about being burned alive. Few can over come such paronia.

Second: If I grab the hellfire ammo It means: I AM NOT COMING BACK, END OF THE LINE, PREPARE FOR MY GLORY.

Well If thats the case. I am going out with a MASSIVE BANG and also it will be kind of me to give the people in my company a gift of things to come.......... when they meet Lord Hades.


T

St. Germain 02-12-2009 10:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1565591)
I am not big fan of slugs(changing chokes ) or stuff that stuns (tear gas, Rubber balls etc)

My philosophy is simple If I pull that trigger......... I WANT YOU GONE, PERIOD END OF STORY.

The only one I would consider is the Flame thrower ammo for two reasons.

First: If shoot that shyt I can guarantee ........The entire block is getting the @#$%^&* outta of my way. Fire inginites a primal fear in us, about being burned alive. Few can over come such paronia.

Second: If I grab the hellfire ammo It means: I AM NOT COMING BACK, END OF THE LINE, PREPARE FOR MY GLORY.

Well If thats the case. I am going out with a MASSIVE BANG and also it will be kind of me to give the people in my company a gift of things to come.......... when they meet Lord Hades.


T

I'd really miss the graphics. :biggrin:
ST

Twisted Avatar 02-12-2009 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by St. Germain (Post 1565606)
I'd really miss the graphics. :biggrin:
ST


I am on my air card so things are kinda slow today .........It will be reticfied later in the thread.

Scouts honor

St. Germain 02-12-2009 10:33 AM

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Thanks man.

Canadian-guerilla 02-12-2009 10:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar

My philosophy is simple If I pull that trigger......... I WANT YOU GONE, PERIOD END OF STORY.


+1

next obstacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar
The only one I would consider is the Flame thrower ammo for two reasons.

First: If shoot that shyt I can guarantee ........The entire block is getting the @#$%^&* outta of my way. Fire inginites a primal fear in us, about being burned alive. Few can over come such paronia.

T


being burned alive is one of the worst ways to go, imho

Twisted Avatar 02-12-2009 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1565613)
+1

Being burned alive is one of the worst ways to go, imho


Exactly which why I will lay my entire silver stash If Blackboots kick in my door and I manage to grab the 870 in time and get a single round off.


THEY WILL LEAVE........QUICK FAST AND IN A DAM HURRY.

NOBODY BODY IS CALLING IN BACK UP.

THEY WILL BEAT A HASTY @$$ RETREAT.





A MAN WHO HAS NOTHING LEFT TO LOSE STRIKES THE FEAR OF GOD IN THEM........AND I KNOW THIS.

T

chad 02-12-2009 10:46 AM

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fleschettes are nasty. nasty, nasty stuff there.

SLV>GLD 02-12-2009 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1565570)
was looking for flechettes,

http://www.firequest.com/catalog/flechettemoreinfo.html

Canadian-guerilla 02-12-2009 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1565677)


DOH !!!

" too many links " syndrome

that's my story and i'm sticking to it :biggrin:

Abouthadit 02-12-2009 11:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chad (Post 1565628)
fleschettes are nasty. nasty, nasty stuff there.

I bought some a while back, cant recall who from at the moment, and loaded up about a dozen. Not shot any yet but will use a sheet of plywood and take a pic.
:RockOn:

ausome 02-12-2009 11:36 AM

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At first glance it seems that many of these items would be illegal in the states where they are needed most (NY, CA, IL).

SLV>GLD 02-12-2009 11:36 AM

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How about 2 sheets of plywood about 1" foot apart? I'd like to see what the ones that made it through the first board do to the 2nd.

Twisted Avatar 02-12-2009 11:49 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ausome (Post 1565741)
At first glance it seems that many of these items would be illegal in the states where they are needed most (NY, CA, IL).

The people that need it.............will get it.

Same as the criminals do.


T

Heimdhal 02-12-2009 11:56 AM

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The vast majority of these are totaly pointless for anything other than having some fun with your shot gun.

Lets look at the ones that MIGHT have a SPECIFIC use:

Door Breacher: Could be good, if you plan on breaching doors in SHTF. Could just use a slug though, cause at that point, you wont be as worried about collateral damage.

Rubber Rocket/pepper spray: You arent doing crowd control. So: Pointless

Confetti: Would be fun at fourth of july, ill admit that

Flechettes: Are just totaly pointless and ineffective. They dont cause enough wound trauma to stop targets and about 50% of the flechettes will never stabalize before they get to your target, will hit off center and wont penetrate.

Armor Piercing: Could certainly have its uses, but most slugs can penetrate just as much as this thing claims.

Double Slug: Pointless, inaccurate, ineffectual.

Exploder: COuld be fun, ill admitt it. Inaccurate..slug would be better.

Macho Caucho: Illegal in most states. Inaccurate. Ineffective. Cant insure a postive threat-ending shot.

Pepper Blast: Odds are youll be just as effected as the target. Bad Idea to debilitate yourself, eh?

Rhodesian Jungle: Pointless. The small shot is to small to stop a threat, there isnt enough large shot to garuntee success.

Flash Grenade: That would be fun, though I question its combat effectivness. But....

Piranah, terminator and flame thrower......TOTALY POINTLESS AND A WASTE. THe dragons breat are fun, no doubt about it, but not COMBAT EFFECTIVE and could likley cause you more harm than your target in prolonged engagments, and even harm to the shot gun. They also dont work well in auto shotty's, if you have one(Like a saiga 12).



The moral of the story. Stick to buck shot, 00 is prefered, and slugs. Its the most common used by LEO's and Military all over the world, and has been since WW1...for a damn good reason.

All the rest, is just for fun and should not be used for or relied upon IN combat.

before SHTF. Imagine telling a DA you were defending yourself and home and thats why you lit the perp on fire with your flame throwing shotgun ammo....

Abouthadit 02-12-2009 11:57 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SLV>GLD (Post 1565745)
How about 2 sheets of plywood about 1" foot apart? I'd like to see what the ones that made it through the first board do to the 2nd.

good idea.

SLV>GLD 02-12-2009 12:01 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Abouthadit (Post 1565793)
good idea.

I see I made a classic Spinal Tap mistake. I meant 1' not 1". Would definitely appreciate pics of the test!

Drumblebum 02-12-2009 12:31 PM

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I'm tempted to get some of that confetti for the laughs. I picture the look on my buddy's face as he takes a shot at a clay bird and *POOF*!!

:4_1_72::4_1_72:

Doge 02-12-2009 02:09 PM

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TTT - great thread. I really like the door breachers.

madfranks 02-12-2009 02:14 PM

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It would be cool if they made a round filled with silver shot and called it the "werewolf killer".

Heimdhal 02-12-2009 02:15 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1565848)
I'm tempted to get some of that confetti for the laughs. I picture the look on my buddy's face as he takes a shot at a clay bird and *POOF*!!

:4_1_72::4_1_72:

thats hilarious. Im gonna have to do that to my father in law next time we go trap shooting. Oh you just gave me such evil ideas :36_1_34:

Twisted Avatar 02-12-2009 02:24 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1566095)
It would be cool if they made a round filled with silver shot and called it the "werewolf killer".


Wont catch my @$$ using it.


T

madfranks 02-12-2009 02:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1566114)
Wont catch my @$$ using it.


T

But what if you ran into a werewolf? Then you would wish that you had it. :RockOn:

Drumblebum 02-12-2009 02:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1566114)
Wont catch my @$$ using it.


T


Not even on a werewolf? Sheesh.


:bear_happy:

End of Hope 02-12-2009 03:49 PM

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Tell us which hospital you're admitted to after firing this shit, and I'll send flowers. :biggrin:

Seriously, what unbelievable gimmicks. I wonder how low the quality control is on these rounds. Someone cooked them up in their garage probably.

If you want a "megacannon" round, just buy this -

http://www.brennekeusa.com/

End of Hope 02-12-2009 03:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by St. Germain (Post 1565582)
Can this stuff damage the shotgun?

ST

Let's wait for the OP to find out.





(yes)

End of Hope 02-12-2009 03:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Twisted Avatar (Post 1565591)
[B]I am not big fan of slugs(changing chokes ) or stuff that stuns (tear gas, Rubber balls etc)

My philosophy is simple If I pull that trigger......... I WANT YOU GONE, PERIOD END OF STORY.

Which is the ONLY philosophy that succeeds in justifiable homicide cases.

Use "non-lethal" or "less-than-lethal" when you're claiming you are facing lethal force, and you will be charged with ADW.

RIGHT:

"Yes, I killed him, and I was justified in doing so. I feared for my life, and believed he was going to kill me and there was nothing I could do to avoid his assault."

WRONG:

"Well, I just wanted to scare him/hurt him, I didn't want to kill him, I didn't think the situation was bad enough to kill him...we the jury find the defendant guilty of voluntary manslaughter..."


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Canadian-guerilla 02-12-2009 03:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1566353)
RIGHT:

"Yes, I killed him, and I was justified in doing so. I feared for my life, and believed he was going to kill me and there was nothing I could do to avoid his assault."


works for the cops all the time . . .

SLV>GLD 02-12-2009 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Canadian-guerilla (Post 1566370)
works for the cops all the time . . .

Dude, that was the RIGHT example. He also spelled out the WRONG example. You're proving the point you think you're arguing against. It seems to be the trend today, so don't feel lonely.

Ag_man 02-12-2009 05:39 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1565790)
The vast majority of these are totaly pointless for anything other than having some fun with your shot gun.

...

The moral of the story. Stick to buck shot, 00 is prefered, and slugs. Its the most common used by LEO's and Military all over the world, and has been since WW1...for a damn good reason.

All the rest, is just for fun and should not be used for or relied upon IN combat.

before SHTF. Imagine telling a DA you were defending yourself and home and thats why you lit the perp on fire with your flame throwing shotgun ammo....

Good points! There seems to be an radidly expanding market in these "gimmick" and "non lethal" shotgun shells. Stick to buckshot and slugs.

Twisted Avatar 02-12-2009 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1566161)
Not even on a werewolf? Sheesh.


:bear_happy:


I let my New Lady handle the Wolfie Problem :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

madfranks 02-12-2009 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by End of Hope (Post 1566348)
Let's wait for the OP to find out.





(yes)

I don't think anyone here thinks they could fire a flame thrower round out of their shotgun without the possibility of damaging it. If you, or anyone here wants to buy these, DYODD (which should go without saying).

Drumblebum 02-12-2009 06:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1566688)
I don't think anyone here thinks they could fire a flame thrower round out of their shotgun without the possibility of damaging it. If you, or anyone here wants to buy these, DYODD (which should go without saying).

I'm still thinking the confetti would be fun.
BOOM!
POOF!



:4_1_72:

gangsta99 02-12-2009 07:07 PM

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The most exotic rounds I will ever own are the 3 inch magnum slugs that I have. They are exotic because I usually only use 2 3/4 rounds. :bear_w00t:

latitude22 02-12-2009 07:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by madfranks (Post 1566688)
I don't think anyone here thinks they could fire a flame thrower round out of their shotgun without the possibility of damaging it. If you, or anyone here wants to buy these, DYODD (which should go without saying).

You may do it once, but I doubt you'll do it a second time. Either you or the gun will be damaged beyond repair... prolly both.

TheNocturnalEgyptian 02-12-2009 08:16 PM

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Blorp 02-12-2009 08:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Drumblebum (Post 1566743)
I'm still thinking the confetti would be fun.
BOOM!
POOF!



:4_1_72:

I agree. That would be funny stuff at the skeet range. I'd laugh.

Lucky225 02-13-2009 04:33 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Heimdhal (Post 1565790)
before SHTF. Imagine telling a DA you were defending yourself and home and thats why you lit the perp on fire with your flame throwing shotgun ammo....

:111: literally made me explode in laughter picturing this!!! haha

Twisted Avatar 02-13-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucky225 (Post 1568638)
:111: literally made me explode in laughter picturing this!!! haha


I wanted to "brown" him your honor..... not totally flame broil.


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